The ripstop weave strengthens the fabric and prevents tears. for a size regular/regular quilt). 2017 DutchWare | SITE DESIGNED BY SNOWBERRY MEDIA, Terms & Conditions | Shipping & Refunds | Privacy Policy. Use the links below to share this content: Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total), Live Webinar - Introduction to Map & Compass - July 2 @ 9 AM US MDT. hyperbreeze, 3D structure fabric, anti-odor fabric and durable fabrics are U-long's specialties in the textile industry. Summary: It is calendared, breathable and exceptionally soft with a quality C6DWR finish. Feathers ain't down. But, most equipment comes standard and since every person is a little different, manufacturers cant meet all of those needs. What you get then is a wad of errant down not feathers. Watch the Tarptent Dipole Review Premiere on YouTube: Backpacking Light community posts are moderated and here to foster helpful and positive discussions about lightweight backpacking. WE HOPE TO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SOON AND ARE NOW ALLOWING ONLINE WILL CALL ORDERS AND PROCESSING ONLINE ORDERS TO BE SHIPPED. Ex: Lightest Pertex Quantum (non ripstop) now made is called .9 but final wgt is closer to 1.0. Isn't this kind of a "What weighs more, a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks" question? A Membership is required to post in the forums. You said,"Everytime the bag is removed from its stuff sack, as well as every morning, there are a couple more feathers poking out through the fabric or else stuck to my thermals." Or,contact usif you have any questions. It has less space between the individual threads, which helps keep the feathers in. My rants are as much to do with B.S. Backpacking Light helps hikers and other backcountry enthusiasts overcome their barriers to living a life outside in Wild Places. The downproof fabric is suitable for much outdoor wear and equipment, or lightweight jackets and leisurewear light down coat. The term originated in the bad-old-days when separating down from the quill-bearing plumes and feathers was done by hand, and the best down had a fill rating of maybe 650 cubic inches. This high thread count fabric has a finished weight of only .65 oz/yd. You're currently viewing a free preview of a member exclusive premium article. The third possibility is that the manufacturer used oversized needles what left large stitch holes or that there is some other manufacturing glitch such as excessive stitch length leaving down channels inadequately sealed. 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Monday-Friday 9am - 4pm Becausedownfeathers are so small and fine, theywouldeasily slip out of the seams and weaves of fabricswithout the helpofdownproof materials. I should have said that. This fabric was chosen for the outer shell to add years of life to the quilt with only a very small weight penalty over 10D(under .75 oz. There is a limit, however, because no down mix is without quills. However, down alternative does not have the same qualities as authentic down. When the .8 fabric is in humid conditions it is vary clammy any way. Calendering is a type of finish for fabrics. We are experiencing technical difficulties with our shipping services in the checkout, If you experience an error when entering your shipping details, please call and we will process the order manually. This fabric was chosen for its light weight and extremely soft hand feel. The .3 oz in a bivy top and .5-.7 in a bag is worth that extra weight in performance and durability. First, all the .8 , .85 and .9's, etc are really a bit heavier, usually 5-10%. For the best shopping experience, we recommend using Google Chrome, updated device and browser apps. Required fields are marked *. Never-the-less, my first one has served well for over (5) years being the go to bag 95%+ of the time. You can adjust your Cookie Preferences at the bottom of this page. I'd greatly appreciate any insight or explanation! Ron & Aaron (and anyone else w/direct experience)-, I don't quite understand the air permeability question on shells It seems to me that if "X" inches of down is warm to 30*F that the warmth of the bag is dependent on "X," not the shell. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. This product is a fine Denier fabric (40D or less) woven into a thin soft fabric, and fabric weight at 40g / m or less, usually by 30D, 20D.15D of NYLON fabric or POLYESTER fabric for the material to weave, it has delicate touch, and light weight and other characteristics, and therefore very suitable for kite tents, sleeping bags and down jackets lightweight casual jacket. Paul, I also have a hydrogen from back when they claimed it was filled with 900fp down. You can use downproof fabric for DIY projects on a few items, such as sleeping bags, hammocksandclothes. These dark colors will help to dry the quilt more quickly in the sun should it get wet. Different weaves will give fabrics unique properties. Everytime the bag is removed from its stuff sack, as well as every morning, there are a couple more feathers poking out through the fabric or else stuck to my thermals. That's just my best guess, though. Military and protection equipment textile products made from nylon 66 fabrics, a type of nylon yarn that simulates the rugged, fuzzy texture of natural cotton yarn have high tensile strength. Designed By, This site uses cookies to collect the necessary user browsing behavior so that we can provide you with a better browsing experience. The .8 fabric is much colder in the same temps from the loss of heat. hours for phone calls, Monday thru Friday 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. PST, 60" 1.1 Ounce Uncoated Ripstop @ $11.25/ linear yard, 60" 1.9 Ounce Uncoated Nylon Ripstop @ $9.50/ linear yard. Thematerial is created using a specialized textile to effectively hold the down inside down products. All of our ultralight nylon fabrics are calendered, down-proof and have a C6 DWR (durable water-resistant) finish. We Ship Worldwide! woven: The men's cotton cloth squares are woven from fabric material, which is dries quickly for quick cleaning and long lasting. Get our free Handbook and Receive our weekly newsletter to see what's new at Backpacking Light! WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. if the cluster is poking through the outer shell, grasp it from inside the bag) and pinch your fingers around it, then pull it back into the bag. Won't "X" inches of down provide the same amount of insulation regardless of the shell? casual: Suitable for casual and dressy occasions, a must have in any season. 1.9 oz. I have used the 0.8 oz ripstop from Trhuhiker on a couple of down quilts with great results. Don't get caught up in automatically thinking a bag's or bivy top of .8 / .85 / .9 is better. Military and Protection Equipment Products. You pick every detail so you get exactly what you want. Since it is uncoated it is breathable. Outerwear and Technical Performance Shells. How much warm air would you lose from within the down itself during the night asd you moved slightly? This occurs at the end of the process of creating fabrics, giving it a unique finish compared to non-calendered fabrics. Our premium articles include in depth journalism and insights from the Backpacking Light editorial team. Our AlphaLite Custom Quilts are made to order just for you. The compact structure provides very good opacity and a high-quality look, also highly breathable with excellent wind and rain proof, and provides great performance. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. But if you were in a nylon-shelled inner tent it seems to me that air permeability of the shell shouldn't be a big deal. sq yd 70 Denier. I have to agree about nominal 0.8 for outer shells. Quilt shell fabrics have been designed and manufactured exclusively for El Coyote Quilts. You could lose as much down as you state losing for many many years, with no appreciable loss of loft to you bag. Higher rated down has fewer quills than lower rated down. I have made two quilts with 9 oz of 800 fill down in each. We apologize for the inconvenience. Calendered and downproof fabrics offer immense benefits for enhancing your experience while beneath the stars and trees. The better down has very few quills or feathers. this time, Seattle Fabrics is ONLINE ONLY but is operating with regular Suppose the shell was made of canvas. It feels incredible against the skin while still having a calendered, downproof treatment and a quality C6DWR finish. It obviously gains weight from your perspiration and condensation over the night, making the bag even colder. To be fair, I actually own (2) of the bags, swapping a couple of years ago thinking the first was faulty. The second possibility is that the particular fabric you refer to has an excessively loose weave. That's much easier than trying to poke it through from the outside. 100% Nylon 20 denier Downproof lightweight fabric process by calendering of textiles makes the fabric much smooth and thin, becoming high-density, ultra-light, and comfortably functional fabric which weights below 36g/m. I use it on the inside only. I understand (and accept) that some shedding is to be expected with ultralight fabrics. Superior Technical & Performance Fabrics For Outdoor and Activewear. Coated and Uncoated Nylon and Polyester Fabrics. These dark colors will help to dry the quilt more quickly in the sun should it get wet. Color Disclaimer: Technically speaking, down itself has no quills at all, but a few sneak into the mix. Downproof fabricsare constructed with qualities thatkeepthe feathers inside without the chance of escape. At DutchWare, we work hard to bring you the finest and most reliable fabrics for your DIY projects. For example, a calendered hammock will help keep you warm and dry at night. We innovate, strengthen technical basis, properly control products quality and punctual delivery, which enable highly competitive strength of this company in the textile sector in Taiwan. When you become more experienced on your backpacking and camping trips, youll begin thinking of ways to make your gear even more useful. Textiles for baby strollers or inflatable equipment are extremely environmentally-friendly. To make calendered fabric, the material goes through calender rollers under high temperatures. It can also be processed as 2.5 or 3 layer fabric. I think I have sampled almost all possible light fabrics.Sure feel like it! 100% Nylon 20 denier Downproof lightweight fabric process by calendering of textiles makes the fabric much smooth and thin, becoming high-density, ultra-light, and comfortably functional fabric which weights below 36g/m. All sorts of things happen on the way to the Forum. I imagine that if you're using the factory stuff sack, which I feel is much too small and compresses the down more than it should be, the small number of quilled feathers would be forcefully pushed out the fabric by the compression. Your review*document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a7eefd66e78e47fc553ea851e3d08e64" );document.getElementById("ea26038b26").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Your personal data will be used to support your experience throughout this website, to manage access to your account, and for other purposes described in our privacy policy. Your email address will not be published. This high thread count fabric has a finished weight of only .65 oz/yd. Top of the line ultralight downproof fabric. Every statement from above is absolutely correct. You can use these types of materials to improve a range of camping and backpacking gear, like sleeping gear, packs, clothing and more. 2022 Win Yang Textile Co., Ltd All rights reserved. U-long provides fabrics for outdoor activities, leisurewear and workwear that is suitable for all weather conditions and tough working environments. But I wouldn't worry about this at all. The downproof fabric is suitable for much outdoor wear and equipment, or lightweight jackets and leisurewear light down coat. dustproof: Highly breathable fabric, comfortable and dustproof. Join Home Forums Gear Forums Gear (General) Downproof Fabric. Today, high-quality down has few quills and does not need down-proof fabric, so you can use very light fabric. jacket: Fashionable and comfortable jacket for ladies and girls. Tear resistance is comparable to our 10D taffeta fabric. Available in a black (bottom) or dark charcoal grey (top) color. I've cleary been thinking about this 180 in the wrong direction. By picking up some standard materials, you can make your gear better fit your individual needs by working on some DIY projects. Sign in. At only .88 oz/yd, it is lighter than 20Dand more durable than 10D. Our high thread count 15d is the perfect balance between lightweight and durability. I'm currious about other's experiences and recommendations e.g. When you start DIY projects, you will, at some point, start working with different fabrics. Unless you've tried to stuff something with high fill-power down (like in your Hydrogen bag), or had a down item burst, you have no idea how much down is in there! However, I find that unlikely. Thank-you very much for your insights here. While every downproof fabric is calendered, not all calendered fabrics are downproof. Browse this site, which means you agree with, Eco Friendly Fabric (Environmental-Friendly Fabric), No.35, Ln.538, Sec.9, Zhongqing Rd., Qingshui Dist., Taichung City 43647, Taiwan. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. You want it to breath enough to prevent condensation but not so much to allow heat to pass faster than necessary. Your reference to feathers tends to rule that idea out. Jackets, Vests, Pants, stuff sacks or use as a lining. marking on the part of Marmot as anything (900 fill my ass). How much loft would the down have under that weight? These materials will improve your camping experience, giving you more time to focus on enjoying your days spent in the great outdoors. Fabric images may not accurately represent color, texture, due to difference of monitors. By continuing to use AliExpress you accept our use of cookies (view more on our Privacy Policy). hyperbreeze, 3D structure fabric, anti-odor fabric and durable fabrics are U-long's specialties in the textile industry. It's my opinion that using a very slightly heavier .95-1.0 (1 1.05 final weight) Pertex Quantum / thru-hiker Momentum) is better than a .8-.85 fabric (final weight of .9-.95) because 1: tighter weave and DWR application cretes a lower air permability 2: It's going to have amuch beter DWR for the .05-.1 oz/sq/yd weight and 3: It's going to be much tougher and completely downproof.
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